Discussion:
Best thing about The Deal on ABC Four Corners
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fasgnadh
2010-10-04 20:26:17 UTC
Permalink
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/

Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.

Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.

Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.





---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:




Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:




Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:



---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-04 20:58:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Aw shucks, pity the treasury didn't talk to the Reserve Bank, because
the RBA, acting independently, is steadily *raising* interest rates
because of Labor's spending.

The Coalition costed the savings from not building a $43b NBN at only
$2.4b whereas the treasury costed this at $1.6b. The difference is
INTEREST RATES. Both figures are too *low*, because Labor has already
borrowed $16.5b on our behalf.

Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue is LABOR SPENDING
which is driving up INTEREST RATES, costing us more every week in our
MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS.

And not only is the silly NBN *already* costing us every week, the
higher interest rates are driving up the Aussie dollar and impacting on
our exports.

Labor idiots.
Post by fasgnadh
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
---------
"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010
"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"
- SMH 28/9/2010
"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."
- The Australian 28/9/2010
http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws
http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA
http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk
---------
"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.
Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?
He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!
If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!
If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON
B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[
Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
Eunometic
2010-10-05 01:30:50 UTC
Permalink
One of the more hilarious labour achievements was the 9 billion dollar
home insulation scheme.
This 'stimulus' resulted in
1 Large amounts of shoddy imported insulation rather than the use of
local made quality insulation.
It actualy displaced local makers of insulation.
2 Much of he workers turn out to be itinerant forreginers.

So it fails in helping the local economy. thats the stimulous you
have just to waste money. May as well give it to ethiopia as waste it
like that.

3 Training and standards were so shoddy basic things such as not
covering up downlights was missed, resulting in a fire hazzard (about
a 50% increase in roof fires)

What a bogus shitfight.
bringyagrogalong
2010-10-05 03:37:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Eunometic
One of the more hilarious labour achievements was the 9 billion dollar
home insulation scheme.
There's nothing hilarious about staying out of recession and ending up
with half the unemployment rates of the United States and Europe.

In fact, Labor's brilliant stimulus spending ensured that Australia
was the only one out of 26 member states of the OECD that had no
negative growth.

Congratulations Labor for having an economy that is the envy of the
world.
Peter Webb
2010-10-05 03:55:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by bringyagrogalong
Post by Eunometic
One of the more hilarious labour achievements was the 9 billion dollar
home insulation scheme.
There's nothing hilarious about staying out of recession and ending up
with half the unemployment rates of the United States and Europe.
In fact, Labor's brilliant stimulus spending ensured that Australia
was the only one out of 26 member states of the OECD that had no
negative growth.
Wrong.
Post by bringyagrogalong
Congratulations Labor for having an economy that is the envy of the
world.
I don't think their home insulation scheme (which is what is being
discussed) is the envy of the world. In fact, its a lesson in how not to run
a Government program.
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 06:49:37 UTC
Permalink
Eunometic snipped the facts and changed the subject to RUN AWAY!: B^D
Post by Eunometic
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
One of the more hilarious labour achievements was the 9 billion dollar
home insulation scheme.
There's nothing hilarious about staying out of recession and ending up
with half the unemployment rates of the United States and Europe.
In fact, Labor's brilliant stimulus spending ensured that Australia
was the only one out of 26 member states of the OECD that had no
negative growth.
Congratulations Labor for having an economy that is the envy of the
world.
Meanwhile Tony Maggot chickens out on visiting Australian troops in
Afghanistan (he's just not interested) ..in order to go and
talk to the British Tory party about their economic policies!?!? 8^o

He's left a country where the ALP has an economy the ENVY of the
Western world to learn from people whose economy is FUCKED! B^p

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAA

What a fuckwit! He is just as clueless POLITICALLY as he is
ECONOMICALLY, or TECHNICALLY!

No wonder he's BJ's hero, those two share the same abysmal
lack of FQ!




---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 07:42:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Post by bringyagrogalong
There's nothing hilarious about
lack of FQ!
1. You need treatment
2. It won't help
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 06:40:48 UTC
Permalink
Eunometic unable to dispute the facts, snipped and avoided them:
<unspnip>
Post by Eunometic
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
labour achievements
There have been many.. which would you like to discuss?

(you are changing the topic, but as you concede the above,
lets put you straight here as well.. B^)
Post by Eunometic
home insulation scheme.
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Message-ID: <gt3ko.6608$***@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000

@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68

Worth a rerun:

<paste>


Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Message-ID: <gt3ko.6608$***@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000

@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68

Worth a rerun:

<paste>

@ Krzysztof Wozniak
@
@ "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a
@ revolutionary act." - George Orwell
@
@ The facts:
@
@ How many dwellings are in Australia:
@
@ 5,218,000 (2008)
@
@ How many got isulation before 2008 ?
@
@ 3,183,265 (61%)
@
@ How many houses got insulation under govt scheme:
@
@ 1.150.000 (21%)
@
@ How many houses get insultion every year otherwise
@
@ 67.500 (2008) (1/16 of last year number)
@
@ How many people die in roof cavity every year ?
@
@ couldn't find this one but I remember quite a number of such incidents
@ reported.
@ I would say 1-2 every year.
@ Heat exhaustion, electricution, falls.
@ Only somebody who never ventured into roof cavity can call it a safe
@ place.
@ Does anybody know precisely?
@
@ I assume: 1.
@
@ How many fires related to insulation are recorded every year?
@
@ 80-85
@
@ How many fires were recorded as related to the scheme ?
@
@ 115
@
@ The last 2 numbers are worth thinking about:
@
@ I have no reason to disbelieve in number 115.
@ This data was collected in adverse political climate.
@ It may only be exagerated.
@
@ The increase in fires by 20 (25%) while number of roofs insulated
@ increased 1660% means that:
@ either
@ Garret scheme was super safe
@ or
@ people routinely blame insulation for fires cased by other reasons
@ (like dodgy design or electical faults - in both cases professional
@ license is involved)
@ I can't easily imagine a fire caused by the insulation by itself.
@
@ I believe that the 2nd option is correct.
@
@ Conclusion:
@
@ 1. TA had no statistical proof to support his savage attack
@ on the scheme.
@ Taking in account the size of the scheme neither number
@ of fires nor deaths was statisticaly significant.
@
@ 2. Main culprit is most likely the notoriously shoddy
@ Australian building code.
@
@ 3. The scheme was a success. Most likely the most significant
@ green initiative in AU since Franklin.
@ Some 4m Australians will live without extreme temperatures
@ at home and save approx 200 bucks pa.
@ On the top of the comfort there is a benefit/saving
@ in health costs, stress, productivity, emissions.
@ Australians were aware of it - hence the
@ enthusiastic participation.
@
@ 4. Assuming that one roof means $200 in savings on electricity pa
@ the scheme will pay for ifself over 10 years
@
@ 5, The scheme was halted while in full swing.
@ The cost of NOT insulating further 1m homes over next 10
@ years is approx 2b.
@
@ Tony Abbott killed the golden goose.
@ His action harmed Australia, the environment and the
@ pockets of Australians.
@
@ 6. TA did not advocate the inspection of roof installed
@ earlier (say: under JH).
@ Negligence.
@
@ 7. TA failed to put an alternative plan. (similar to 5)
@
@ 8. KR failed to defend the scheme.
@ His admission of guilt was not justified.
@
@ With regards,
@
@ Krzysztof
@
@ abbottism - savage attack on political oponents designed to damage
@ their credibility with disregard for truth, integrity or national
@ interest.
@
@ References:
@
@
http://www.heartharmony.com.au/blog/2010/02/17/foil-ceiling-insulation-how-good-products-go-bad/
@
@ http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/archives/9996
@
@
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/02/24/did-the-insulation-program-actually-reduce-fire-risk/comment-page-1/


The government's responsibility for safety was met in
establishing the regulations, problems were created when
some dodgy operators ignored those standards...

# From: fasgnadh <***@yahoo.com>
# Message-ID: <LPFio.6106$***@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>
#
# The NBN is getting built the way every visionary program of
# national infrastructure is being built, because if you
# wait for private providers to do it.. it never happens..
# just look at how some of them rorted roof insulation,
# ignoring the regulations for OH&S and then the Econorats
# blamed the government, who defined the regulations, rather
# than the greedy cowboys, who broke them..
#
# I guess what the Lieberals are arguing is the need
# for MORE regulation whenever private enterprise is involved! B^]

B^D
Post by Eunometic
This 'stimulus' resulted in
Australia having the best performing economy in the West.




---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 07:47:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
Sure - how about a summary:
1. ETS was a *good* idea
2. Execution was a fuck-up (like anything managed by Labor)

NBN:
1. Is a good idea
2. *Not* worth $43b
3. Will be a fuck-up (like anything managed by Labor)
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 08:47:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
<unspnip>
Post by Eunometic
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
labour achievements
There have been many.. which would you like to discuss?
(you are changing the topic, but as you concede the above,
lets put you straight here as well.. B^)
Post by Eunometic
home insulation scheme.
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
@ Krzysztof Wozniak
@
@ "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a
@ revolutionary act." - George Orwell
@
@
@
@ 5,218,000 (2008)
@
@ How many got isulation before 2008 ?
@
@ 3,183,265 (61%)
@
@
@ 1.150.000 (21%)
@
@ How many houses get insultion every year otherwise
@
@ 67.500 (2008) (1/16 of last year number)
@
@ How many people die in roof cavity every year ?
@
@ couldn't find this one but I remember quite a number of such incidents
@ reported.
@ I would say 1-2 every year.
@ Heat exhaustion, electricution, falls.
@ Only somebody who never ventured into roof cavity can call it a safe
@ place.
@ Does anybody know precisely?
@
@ I assume: 1.
@
@ How many fires related to insulation are recorded every year?
@
@ 80-85
@
@ How many fires were recorded as related to the scheme ?
@
@ 115
@
@
@ I have no reason to disbelieve in number 115.
@ This data was collected in adverse political climate.
@ It may only be exagerated.
@
@ The increase in fires by 20 (25%) while number of roofs insulated
@ either
@ Garret scheme was super safe
@ or
@ people routinely blame insulation for fires cased by other reasons
@ (like dodgy design or electical faults - in both cases professional
@ license is involved)
@ I can't easily imagine a fire caused by the insulation by itself.
@
@ I believe that the 2nd option is correct.
@
@
@ 1. TA had no statistical proof to support his savage attack
@ on the scheme.
@ Taking in account the size of the scheme neither number
@ of fires nor deaths was statisticaly significant.
@
@ 2. Main culprit is most likely the notoriously shoddy
@ Australian building code.
@
@ 3. The scheme was a success. Most likely the most significant
@ green initiative in AU since Franklin.
@ Some 4m Australians will live without extreme temperatures
@ at home and save approx 200 bucks pa.
@ On the top of the comfort there is a benefit/saving
@ in health costs, stress, productivity, emissions.
@ Australians were aware of it - hence the
@ enthusiastic participation.
@
@ 4. Assuming that one roof means $200 in savings on electricity pa
@ the scheme will pay for ifself over 10 years
@
@ 5, The scheme was halted while in full swing.
@ The cost of NOT insulating further 1m homes over next 10
@ years is approx 2b.
@
@ Tony Abbott killed the golden goose.
@ His action harmed Australia, the environment and the
@ pockets of Australians.
@
@ 6. TA did not advocate the inspection of roof installed
@ earlier (say: under JH).
@ Negligence.
@
@ 7. TA failed to put an alternative plan. (similar to 5)
@
@ 8. KR failed to defend the scheme.
@ His admission of guilt was not justified.
@
@ With regards,
@
@ Krzysztof
@
@ abbottism - savage attack on political oponents designed to damage
@ their credibility with disregard for truth, integrity or national
@ interest.
@
@
@
http://www.heartharmony.com.au/blog/2010/02/17/foil-ceiling-insulation-how-good-products-go-bad/
@
@ http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/archives/9996
@
@
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/02/24/did-the-insulation-program-actually-reduce-fire-risk/comment-page-1/
The government's responsibility for safety was met in
establishing the regulations, problems were created when
some dodgy operators ignored those standards...
#
# The NBN is getting built the way every visionary program of
# national infrastructure is being built, because if you
# wait for private providers to do it.. it never happens..
# just look at how some of them rorted roof insulation,
# ignoring the regulations for OH&S and then the Econorats
# blamed the government, who defined the regulations, rather
# than the greedy cowboys, who broke them..
#
# I guess what the Lieberals are arguing is the need
# for MORE regulation whenever private enterprise is involved! B^]
Sure
Well I'm glad you got that off your chest! B^D
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
B^D
Post by Eunometic
This 'stimulus' resulted in
Australia having the best performing economy in the West.
1. ETS was a *good* idea
2. Execution was a fuck-up (like anything managed by Labor)
That's not a summary, it's a travesty.

But then, can we expect anything intelligible from someone
who goes apeshit about interest rates driving up your mortgage
when they haven't moved for five months and you voted for
Howard who saw 12 successive rises, till Australians threw him
out and the ALP brought them DOWN! B^)


Newsgroups:
aus.politics,soc.culture.australian,aus.culture.true-blue,canb.general,aus.media-watch
Subject: Re: "RBA tipped to pull rates trigger"
- BJ the Economic CRETIN! B^D
Message-ID: <VcBqo.1080$***@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:20:05 +1100
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"

What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!

"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.

The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."

"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!

"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."

Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D

What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D

Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BAKNING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!


What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D





---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 09:27:08 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
1. ETS was a *good* idea
2. Execution was a fuck-up
That's not a summary, it's a travesty.
Travesty, tragedy? Wotts the diffs - anything managed by Labor is
destined to be late and have huge cost-overruns. The Catholic church
managed to build beautiful architect-designed school halls for *half*
the cost of NSW Labor-managed public school halls.
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 09:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
<unspnip>
Post by Eunometic
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
labour achievements
There have been many.. which would you like to discuss?
(you are changing the topic, but as you concede the above,
lets put you straight here as well.. B^)
Post by Eunometic
home insulation scheme.
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
@ Krzysztof Wozniak
@
@ "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a
@ revolutionary act." - George Orwell
@
@
@
@ 5,218,000 (2008)
@
@ How many got isulation before 2008 ?
@
@ 3,183,265 (61%)
@
@
@ 1.150.000 (21%)
@
@ How many houses get insultion every year otherwise
@
@ 67.500 (2008) (1/16 of last year number)
@
@ How many people die in roof cavity every year ?
@
@ couldn't find this one but I remember quite a number of such incidents
@ reported.
@ I would say 1-2 every year.
@ Heat exhaustion, electricution, falls.
@ Only somebody who never ventured into roof cavity can call it a safe
@ place.
@ Does anybody know precisely?
@
@ I assume: 1.
@
@ How many fires related to insulation are recorded every year?
@
@ 80-85
@
@ How many fires were recorded as related to the scheme ?
@
@ 115
@
@
@ I have no reason to disbelieve in number 115.
@ This data was collected in adverse political climate.
@ It may only be exagerated.
@
@ The increase in fires by 20 (25%) while number of roofs insulated
@ either
@ Garret scheme was super safe
@ or
@ people routinely blame insulation for fires cased by other reasons
@ (like dodgy design or electical faults - in both cases professional
@ license is involved)
@ I can't easily imagine a fire caused by the insulation by itself.
@
@ I believe that the 2nd option is correct.
@
@
@ 1. TA had no statistical proof to support his savage attack
@ on the scheme.
@ Taking in account the size of the scheme neither number
@ of fires nor deaths was statisticaly significant.
@
@ 2. Main culprit is most likely the notoriously shoddy
@ Australian building code.
@
@ 3. The scheme was a success. Most likely the most significant
@ green initiative in AU since Franklin.
@ Some 4m Australians will live without extreme temperatures
@ at home and save approx 200 bucks pa.
@ On the top of the comfort there is a benefit/saving
@ in health costs, stress, productivity, emissions.
@ Australians were aware of it - hence the
@ enthusiastic participation.
@
@ 4. Assuming that one roof means $200 in savings on electricity pa
@ the scheme will pay for ifself over 10 years
@
@ 5, The scheme was halted while in full swing.
@ The cost of NOT insulating further 1m homes over next 10
@ years is approx 2b.
@
@ Tony Abbott killed the golden goose.
@ His action harmed Australia, the environment and the
@ pockets of Australians.
@
@ 6. TA did not advocate the inspection of roof installed
@ earlier (say: under JH).
@ Negligence.
@
@ 7. TA failed to put an alternative plan. (similar to 5)
@
@ 8. KR failed to defend the scheme.
@ His admission of guilt was not justified.
@
@ With regards,
@
@ Krzysztof
@
@ abbottism - savage attack on political oponents designed to damage
@ their credibility with disregard for truth, integrity or national
@ interest.
@
@
@
http://www.heartharmony.com.au/blog/2010/02/17/foil-ceiling-insulation-how-good-products-go-bad/
@
@ http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/archives/9996
@
@
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/02/24/did-the-insulation-program-actually-reduce-fire-risk/comment-page-1/
The government's responsibility for safety was met in
establishing the regulations, problems were created when
some dodgy operators ignored those standards...
#
# The NBN is getting built the way every visionary program of
# national infrastructure is being built, because if you
# wait for private providers to do it.. it never happens..
# just look at how some of them rorted roof insulation,
# ignoring the regulations for OH&S and then the Econorats
# blamed the government, who defined the regulations, rather
# than the greedy cowboys, who broke them..
#
# I guess what the Lieberals are arguing is the need
# for MORE regulation whenever private enterprise is involved! B^]
Sure
Well I'm glad you got that off your chest! B^D
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
B^D
Post by Eunometic
This 'stimulus' resulted in
Australia having the best performing economy in the West.
1. ETS was a *good* idea
2. Execution was a fuck-up (like anything managed by Labor)
That's not a summary, it's a travesty.
Travesty, tragedy? Wotts the diff
We wouldn't expect a Lieberal Loser who thinks the ALP
is to BLAME for an interest rate rise that DIDN'T HAPPEN
to be capable of making the distinction.

So let me help you, Chicken Little.

A Travesty is Abbott snubbing the troops fighting in
a War his government started but he no longer gives
bi-artisan support to.

A tragedy is the poor bastards who are his kids, and
have to live with a 'lame Gay churchie loser' as they call him.
Post by B J Foster
But then, can we expect anything intelligible from someone
who goes apeshit about interest rates driving up your mortgage
when they haven't moved for five months and you voted for
Howard who saw 12 successive rises, till Australians threw him
out and the ALP brought them DOWN! B^)
aus.politics,soc.culture.australian,aus.culture.true-blue,canb.general,aus.media-watch
Subject: Re: "RBA tipped to pull rates trigger"
- BJ the Economic CRETIN! B^D
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:20:05 +1100
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"
What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.
The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."
"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!
"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."
Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D
What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D
Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BAKNING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!
What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D
---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 09:47:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Final Tally
http://www.debtclock.com.au/

Labor morons
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 10:13:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
<unspnip>
Post by Eunometic
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
labour achievements
There have been many.. which would you like to discuss?
(you are changing the topic, but as you concede the above,
lets put you straight here as well.. B^)
Post by Eunometic
home insulation scheme.
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Tony Abbott owes Peter Garrett his unreserved apology
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 23:02:00 +1000
@
http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.politics/browse_thread/thread/90061c86b822b8ae/b21d9059c916fd68?lnk=gst&q=About+insualtion+without+#b21d9059c916fd68
<paste>
@ Krzysztof Wozniak
@
@ "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a
@ revolutionary act." - George Orwell
@
@
@
@ 5,218,000 (2008)
@
@ How many got isulation before 2008 ?
@
@ 3,183,265 (61%)
@
@
@ 1.150.000 (21%)
@
@ How many houses get insultion every year otherwise
@
@ 67.500 (2008) (1/16 of last year number)
@
@ How many people die in roof cavity every year ?
@
@ couldn't find this one but I remember quite a number of such incidents
@ reported.
@ I would say 1-2 every year.
@ Heat exhaustion, electricution, falls.
@ Only somebody who never ventured into roof cavity can call it a safe
@ place.
@ Does anybody know precisely?
@
@ I assume: 1.
@
@ How many fires related to insulation are recorded every year?
@
@ 80-85
@
@ How many fires were recorded as related to the scheme ?
@
@ 115
@
@
@ I have no reason to disbelieve in number 115.
@ This data was collected in adverse political climate.
@ It may only be exagerated.
@
@ The increase in fires by 20 (25%) while number of roofs insulated
@ either
@ Garret scheme was super safe
@ or
@ people routinely blame insulation for fires cased by other reasons
@ (like dodgy design or electical faults - in both cases professional
@ license is involved)
@ I can't easily imagine a fire caused by the insulation by itself.
@
@ I believe that the 2nd option is correct.
@
@
@ 1. TA had no statistical proof to support his savage attack
@ on the scheme.
@ Taking in account the size of the scheme neither number
@ of fires nor deaths was statisticaly significant.
@
@ 2. Main culprit is most likely the notoriously shoddy
@ Australian building code.
@
@ 3. The scheme was a success. Most likely the most significant
@ green initiative in AU since Franklin.
@ Some 4m Australians will live without extreme temperatures
@ at home and save approx 200 bucks pa.
@ On the top of the comfort there is a benefit/saving
@ in health costs, stress, productivity, emissions.
@ Australians were aware of it - hence the
@ enthusiastic participation.
@
@ 4. Assuming that one roof means $200 in savings on electricity pa
@ the scheme will pay for ifself over 10 years
@
@ 5, The scheme was halted while in full swing.
@ The cost of NOT insulating further 1m homes over next 10
@ years is approx 2b.
@
@ Tony Abbott killed the golden goose.
@ His action harmed Australia, the environment and the
@ pockets of Australians.
@
@ 6. TA did not advocate the inspection of roof installed
@ earlier (say: under JH).
@ Negligence.
@
@ 7. TA failed to put an alternative plan. (similar to 5)
@
@ 8. KR failed to defend the scheme.
@ His admission of guilt was not justified.
@
@ With regards,
@
@ Krzysztof
@
@ abbottism - savage attack on political oponents designed to damage
@ their credibility with disregard for truth, integrity or national
@ interest.
@
@
@
http://www.heartharmony.com.au/blog/2010/02/17/foil-ceiling-insulation-how-good-products-go-bad/
@
@ http://www.thefifthestate.com.au/archives/9996
@
@
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/02/24/did-the-insulation-program-actually-reduce-fire-risk/comment-page-1/
The government's responsibility for safety was met in
establishing the regulations, problems were created when
some dodgy operators ignored those standards...
#
# The NBN is getting built the way every visionary program of
# national infrastructure is being built, because if you
# wait for private providers to do it.. it never happens..
# just look at how some of them rorted roof insulation,
# ignoring the regulations for OH&S and then the Econorats
# blamed the government, who defined the regulations, rather
# than the greedy cowboys, who broke them..
#
# I guess what the Lieberals are arguing is the need
# for MORE regulation whenever private enterprise is involved! B^]
Sure
Well I'm glad you got that off your chest! B^D
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
B^D
Post by Eunometic
This 'stimulus' resulted in
Australia having the best performing economy in the West.
1. ETS was a *good* idea
2. Execution was a fuck-up (like anything managed by Labor)
That's not a summary, it's a travesty.
Travesty, tragedy? Wotts the diff
We wouldn't expect a Lieberal Loser who thinks the ALP
is to BLAME for an interest rate rise that DIDN'T HAPPEN
to be capable of making the distinction.
So let me help you, Chicken Little.
A Travesty is Abbott snubbing the troops fighting in
a War his government started but he no longer gives
bi-artisan support to.
A tragedy is the poor bastards who are his kids, and
have to live with a 'lame Gay churchie loser' as they call him.
morons
Like father, like child.
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
But then, can we expect anything intelligible from someone
who goes apeshit about interest rates driving up your mortgage
when they haven't moved for five months and you voted for
Howard who saw 12 successive rises, till Australians threw him
out and the ALP brought them DOWN! B^)
aus.politics,soc.culture.australian,aus.culture.true-blue,canb.general,aus.media-watch
Subject: Re: "RBA tipped to pull rates trigger"
- BJ the Economic CRETIN! B^D
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 19:20:05 +1100
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"
What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.
The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."
"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!
"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."
Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D
What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D
Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BAKNING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!
What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D
---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
Post by B J Foster
http://www.debtclock.com.au/
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 10:35:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Tony Abbott, Economic Management
"Mr Abbott urged the government to commission a serious cost benefit
analysis of the NBN and suggested it would not do so because it was
'terrified of what it might say'".

Exactly right.

Conroy is simply unequipped to perform the most basic level of financial
analysis, e.g. division: $43b/10m homes = $4,300 per home.

When you factor in the takeup, using the "hoped for" 30% of Tasmania:
$4,300/30% = $14,333.

Labor morons
B J Foster
2010-10-05 07:39:42 UTC
Permalink
...
Post by Eunometic
3 Training and standards were so shoddy basic things such as not
covering up downlights was missed, resulting in a fire hazzard (about
a 50% increase in roof fires)
Training...Garrett is now Minister for Schools
Post by Eunometic
What a bogus shitfight.
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 06:15:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Watching Abbott caught like a rabbit in headlights after
his $11,000,000,000 Black Hole was revealed.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20101004/deal/
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
Aw shucks, pity the treasury didn't talk to the Reserve Bank, because
the RBA, acting independently, is steadily *raising* interest rates
because of Labor's spending.
Aw shucks, pity you are talking through your arse as usual,
Blowhard Jerkoff: "

"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"

"...interest rate unchanged for a fifth straight month.."

You are so full of shit, BJ, that you are stinking up the whole
of USENET! B^[

How different to the 12 straight INTEREST RATE RISES under Howard,
just before he was not only booted out of office but unceremoniously
dumped from his OWN SEAT for such gross economic mismanagement!!!
Post by B J Foster
Only an idiot would fail to see
You, apparently ARE just that idiot!! B^D
Post by B J Foster
that the real issue is LABOR SPENDING
which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
Pity you are simply talking shit, as usual! B^D
Post by B J Foster
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS.
If you just got charged more for your mortgage you should
have a word with your Free Market Bum Buddies at the Bank, you
sad loser! They are ripping you off BLIND!

Not hard to do with such a clueless fuckwit with a sub zero FQ

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAA
Post by B J Foster
the higher interest rates are driving up the Aussie dollar
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth consecutive
month today, just weeks before key quarterly inflation data.

The Australian dollar fell sharply on the news, sliding to about
US95.77c from US96.71c prior to the decision."

You have a 100% FAIL rate, you stupid FQ deficient fucktard!

Shit.. you couldn't even predict the ELECTION OUTCOME!
Post by B J Foster
and impacting on our exports.
Driving them up, upsets you?

If you claim a rising dollar is bad for exports then the
fall in the dollar must be good. But we won't see a diehard
Hanrahan like you celebrating, will we!? B^]

But then, your economic babble is as unsophisticated as
your NBN blather and your political bullshit.

A poem about the WHINING Lieberal LOSERS:

SAID HANRAHAN by John O'Brien

"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
One frosty Sunday morn.

The Abbot wrung his hands in woe
no solace could he find
excepting when his hands slid down
to fondle young BJ's behind!

The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
As it had done for years.


"It's looking crook," said Daniel Croke;
"Bedad, it's cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad."


"It's dry, all right," said young O'Neil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.


And so around the chorus ran
"It's keepin' dry, no doubt."
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."


"The crops are done; ye'll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o'-Bourke
They're singin' out for rain.


"They're singin' out for rain," he said,
"And all the tanks are dry."
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.


"There won't be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an ass;
There's not a blade on Casey's place
As I came down to Mass."


"If rain don't come this month," said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak -
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If rain don't come this week."


A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.


"We want an inch of rain, we do,"
O'Neil observed at last;
But Croke "maintained" we wanted two
To put the danger past.


"If we don't get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."


In God's good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.


And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.


It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-o'-Bourke.


And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"If this rain doesn't stop."


And stop it did, in God's good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o'er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.


And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding o'er the fence.


And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey's place
Went riding down to Mass.


While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.


"There'll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan,
"Before the year is out."
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Especially after he had refused to have his figures openly
and independently analysed, and it was Katter who stated
the obvious, "It makes you wonder what he has to hide"
forcing Abbott to BACKFLIP like a performing monkey.
Julia Gillard was revealed as an honest broker, who
gave her word on undertakings, kept it, and won the support of
the independents who mattered.
Amazing insight into the integrity with which Windsor and Oakeshott
conducted their negotiations and a real surprise to see Katter's
position was shaped by his own group of faceless men leading him to back
the wrong horse. However, even he supported the NBN because, like the
other representatives of rural and regional Australia, he KNOWS
from EXPERIENCE, how the commercial interests Abbott represents, have
failed utterly to deliver decent telecommunications to the bush, where
it is most needed by isolated families looking to bring high quality
education, health and jobs to their communities.
---------
"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010
"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"
- SMH 28/9/2010
"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."
- The Australian 28/9/2010
http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws
http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA
http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk
---------
"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.
Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?
He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!
If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!
If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON
B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[
Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-04 21:15:45 UTC
Permalink
"The National Australia Bank's chief economist, Alan Oster, says recent
soft business borrowing and building approvals will not deter the RBA.
...
'But at this stage I think the simple answer is assume that your
borrowing rate's going to be about 100 points up in 12 months time
compared to where it is today'"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/05/3029385.htm

So commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates - IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.

And they can't even stick to a budget:
"Hearing told of BER cost blowouts"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029250.htm

And after being the *root* *cause* of the problem, the idiot wants to
point the finger at the banks:
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 08:20:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"

What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!

"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.

The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."

"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!

"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."

Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D

What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D

Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BAKNING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!


What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D




---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 09:34:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
"Most economists still expect an interest rate rise this year *despite*
the Reserve Bank's *surprise* decision to keep rates steady.

Predictions of an interest rate rise were brought forward from next year
to today after RBA governor Glenn Stevens delivered a speech last month
justifying the use of interest rates to control *inflation*".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/05/3030273.htm?section=justin

Inflation? Inflation? Izzent that corzed by guvmint money supply
expansion? Labor twit.

Inflation! Ye Gods - what izzit?
http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/2008/national/swan-fumbles-over-inflation/index.html
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 09:57:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"
What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.
The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."
"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!
"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."
Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D
What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D
Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BANKING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!
What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D
"Most economists still expect an interest rate rise
These would be the 'economists' on whose worthless predictions
your own worthless predictions were based???

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA

The clueless cretins following the blind!
Post by B J Foster
Predictions of an interest rate rise were brought forward from next year
to today
B^D So you were WRONG a YEAR EARLIER than you predicted! B^D
Post by B J Foster
Inflation! Ye Gods - what izzit?
It's the way your head expands when Abbott is pumping your arse,
you clueless fucktard! B^D

Are you done playing the fool, because most people have
worked out you aren't acting! B^]


---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 10:38:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
"Most economists still expect an interest rate rise
And the rise of the AUD confirms that the market expects rate rises to
follow Labor's massive spending spree. What is relevant, you economic
moron is the interest rate *differential* between Australia and other
countries. Our debt is lower only because the Coalition left a surplus -
which took 11 long years to accumulate - blown in only 2 years by a
pathetic, incompetent Labor guvmint.
fasgnadh
2010-10-05 11:23:51 UTC
Permalink
B J Foster just keeps humiliating himself in public: B^]
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"
What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.
The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."
"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!
And the rise of the AUD confirms that
"Dollar falls after interest rates decision"
- AAP October 05, 2010 6:40PM

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAAAA!


# From: B J Foster <***@yahoo.com.invalid>
# Newsgroups: aus.politics,soc.culture.australian,
# aus.culture.true-blue,canb.general,aus.media-watch
# Subject: Re: Best thing about The Deal on ABC Four Corners
# Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 07:58:58 +1100
# Message-ID: <i8df6e$llh$***@bjf.motzarella.org>
#
# the RBA, acting independently, is steadily *raising*
# interest rates
#
# Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue is
# LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,

But they didn't go up, you mindless fuckwit! B^D

# costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS.

YOU are being ripped off by greedy bankers, you clueless dimwit!

# the higher interest rates are driving up the Aussie dollar

Even people in OTHER COUNTRIES have a better grasp of
what is going on than BJ! B^D

"Australia leaves rates unchanged at 4.5%; currency falls"
- Hong Kong Market Watch 5/10/2010

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
Post by fasgnadh
"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."
Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D
What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D
Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BANKING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!
What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D
"Most economists still expect an interest rate rise
These would be the 'economists' on whose worthless predictions
your own worthless predictions were based???
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
The clueless cretins following the blind!
Post by B J Foster
Predictions of an interest rate rise were brought forward from next year
to today
B^D So you were WRONG a YEAR EARLIER than you predicted! B^D
Post by B J Foster
Inflation! Ye Gods - what izzit?
It's the way your head expands when Abbott is pumping your arse,
you clueless fucktard! B^D
Are you done playing the fool, because most people have
worked out you aren't acting! B^]
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"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
B J Foster
2010-10-05 11:46:07 UTC
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Post by B J Foster
And the rise of the AUD confirms that
"Dollar falls after interest rates decision"
Duh!

But the trend is up:
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=AUDUSD=X&t=2y&q=l&l=on&z=l&p=m50,m200&a=v&lang=en-AU&region=AU

Here is the reason:
http://www.debtclock.com.au/

Labor moron
bringyagrogalong
2010-10-05 11:46:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by B J Foster
Post by B J Foster
"Most economists still expect an interest rate rise
And the rise of the AUD confirms that the market expects rate rises to
follow Labor's massive spending spree.
Are you referring to the stimulus measures that saw Australia as the
only country among 26 member states of the OECD that had no negative
growth and hence the only country among them not to go into recession.

The "massive spending spree" which saw Australia emerge from the GFC
with the world's strongest performing economy with half the
unemployment levels of the United States and Europe and with the
lowest deficit and debt levels on the planet.

Is that what you are referring to?

YES! You are a clueless bastard, aren't you?
Post by B J Foster
What is relevant, you economic
moron is the interest rate *differential* between Australia and other
countries.
Due entirely to our economy performing stronger than the rest of the
world.

THANK YOU LABOR
Post by B J Foster
Our debt is lower only because the Coalition left a surplus
Bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha! And what a paltry surplus it was. It didn't
even finance a fraction of the stimulus.
Post by B J Foster
which took 11 long years to accumulate
That's only because those incompetent ratbags in the Coalition
squandered at least $300 billion dollars in extra tax revenue from the
mining boom as well as billions more flushed down the shitter from the
sale of Telstra.

Where's all that money gone?

Incompetent clowns like Howard and Costello would have been shot in
Latin America.
Post by B J Foster
- blown in only 2 years by a
pathetic, incompetent Labor guvmint.
Blown? It's been invested dipstick.

Something the Libs failed to do.
fasgnadh
2010-10-28 05:32:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by fasgnadh
Post by B J Foster
commercial borrowing is *softer* but there is still pressure on
interest rates
Nothing significant enough to cause concern, you idiotically
hysterical Chicken Little!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
"Reserve Bank keeps interest rates on hold at 4.5pc"
What a pathetic whining, HYSTERICAL Lieberal tool BJ is!
"THE Reserve Bank kept interest rates steady for the fifth
consecutive month today, just weeks before key quarterly
inflation data.
"Inflation eases rate-rise fears"


"Consumer prices rose less than expected in the
September quarter as fuel and vegetable prices
tumbled, reducing the likelihood that the Reserve
Bank will hike its key interest rate next week."

That would make it SIX consecutive months that interest rates
have held steady...

BJ and all the other hysterical Chicken Little Lieberals are
gnashing their teeth and opening their wrists after such a
beautiful set of numbers! B^D


Consumer inflation came in at 0.7 per cent for the three months to
September 30.. less than the 0.8 per cent expected, and prompted
economists to say the Reserve Bank will probably leave official interest
rates unchanged when its board meets on Tuesday."

But BJ told us rates would rise, he said the pressure was upwards,
like the DOZEN successive interest rate rises under Howard and
his incompetent economic managers, just before he got the BOOT!

[Then he got the boot AGAIN on Q&A and now Costello is sinking the
slipper!!!! B^]


"This is great news for anybody with a mortgage," said Brian Redican,
senior economist at Macquarie. "It means there's absolutely no urgency
now to raise rates next week."

Bloody marvelous for everyone excepty Tony Maggott, Joe Hackney
and Andrew Robber Baron

"Today’s inflation figures show that both CPI inflation and underlying
inflation in Australia have continued to moderate,'' Treasurer Mr Wayne
Swan told reporters in Canberra."

Australia under the ALP has the finest economy in the Western world
a goldenb set of numbers!

"Interest rate futures - a measure of the market's bet on a rate rise
next month - slumped to a 16 per cent chance compared with a 57 per cent
probability before the release of today's inflation numbers, according
to Credit Suisse."

But BJ has been arguing for months that rate rises are certain!

What a nincompoop! BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA


"Cheaper vegies

Petrol prices dropped 3.7 per cent in the quarter, vegetable prices
dropped 5.4 per cent and pharmaceuticals prices sank 3.9 per cent, the
ABS said."


"Banks on notice

Economists say a Melbourne Cup Day rate rise by the RBA is now unlikely

Commercial banks, though, have signalled they may move independently of
the central bank and lift lending rates to cope with higher funding
costs of their own. Such an increase, though, would likely spark
condemnation by borrowers and politicians alike, particularly with bank
profits on the rise. NAB today announced a jump in its latest earnings.

Mr Swan said banks had no reason to lift lending rates faster than the
central bank hiked its cash rate.

"The data I think justifies my view, my very strong view, that there is
no justification for any additional rise over and above any official
decision taken on the cash rate by the Reserve Bank," said Mr Swan said
in response to the NAB results."
Post by fasgnadh
The decision to hold the official cash rate at 4.5 per cent
will keep at bay for another month any plans by the retail
banks to lift variable mortgage costs."
"Only an idiot would fail to see that the real issue
is LABOR SPENDING which is driving up INTEREST RATES,
costing us more every week in our MORTGAGE REPAYMENTS."
- BJ, The Real Idiot
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAA!
"In an accompanying statement, RBA governor Glenn Stevens
said the setting was appropriate for the "time being"."
Of course it is.. the economy is purring along! B^D
What a pack of hysterical LUNATICS the Lieberal losers are!
Post by B J Foster
- IOW, the pressure is from massive Labor Government
borrowing.
The pressure to keep interest rates low? B^D
Wow, I guess you should throw a mad tantrum about THAT!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAAA
Post by B J Foster
the idiot wants to
"Swan warns banks against independent rate rise"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/10/04/3029012.htm
So he's not only responsible for NOT forcing up interest
rates due to government policies.. he's also SUCCESFULLY
PREVENTED THE GREEDY GRASPING BAKNING SHITPIGS from
increasing YOUR FUCKING MORTGAGE FOR NO REASON,
while you blame the government for it!!!!
What a hysterical, useless TOSSER you are, Blow Job! B^D
---------


"Mr Abbott made a semi-apology for going back on
his word over the provision in the parliamentary
agreement - hammered out between government,
opposition and those on the crossbenches -
for pairing the Speaker and Deputy Speaker."
- The Age 1/10/2010

"Last week, Opposition Leader Tony Abbott reneged
on a deal on voting rights..
Mr Abbott again defended his decision to break the deal"

- SMH 28/9/2010

"Tony Abbott and his wife Margie,
...set aside their differences and prayed for
mutual trust, kindness and love."

- The Australian 28/9/2010




Tony Abbott, Economic Management - FAIL:

http://youtu.be/ABtlI2Wk3Ws


Tony Abbott. telling the truth - Fail:

http://youtu.be/ZvYzLIywCiA


Tony Abbott - his word is WORTHLESS:

http://youtu.be/Tc5ljcri6Nk

---------


"The coalition won more votes and more seats than
our opponents but sadly we did not get the
opportunity to form a government,'
- Tony Abbott, betraying truth and integrity.


Why is Tony Abbott such a LIAR and DREADFULLY BAD LOSER?

He can't accept that Gillard WON, and instead the
dishonest little grub is trying to claim the government
is NOT Legitimate! 8^o He does this by blatantly LYING
that he got the majority of seats and the majority
of votes!

If the pathetic fraud got the majority of seats he would
be sworn in as the New Government. He isn't because he DIDN'T!

If the Government is constitutionally Illegitimate, then why
hasn't he taken legal action? The answer is, he's a filthy LIAR!
and the Lieberals, falsely maligning the legitimacy
of our democracy are tantamount to TREASON

B^D Tony Abbott is back to the REAL Tony! B^[

And he did NOT get the majority of votes, the ALP did:


Votes Percentage %
Australian Labor Party 6,216,445 50.12
Liberal/National Coalition 6,185,919 49.88

http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ Final Tally
--
Congratulations to Julia Gillard on the Historic
First Election of a Female PM.

Now the nation can move forward, with decency, honesty and respect
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